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The value of a Frenchman’s words

2 August 2012

Words. Like:

I love you
You’re the best thing that’s ever happened to me
I’m the luckiest guy in the world
I need you
I can’t imagine my life without you
I want to grow old with you

They’re lovely when you hear them from a Frenchman. But then he goes away on vacation with his family for two weeks and you’re lucky if he calls you twice.

So what happened to all those lovely words? Did they just fly out of the window the second you were out of sight, out of mind? If they did, then what value did they have in the first place if you’re forgotten so easily?

Which leads me to say, do Frenchman say I love you and the like too fast? Do they say it because it feels right at the time, because they’re hopeless romantics, because they want to make you swoon, but they don’t quite feel it, deep down?

Because if you can’t imagine your life without someone, how can you be away and not find the time to call? It doesn’t really add up, does it.

The value of words of this nature is both cultural and personal. Frenchmen fall into an instant relationship and are spouting all kinds of swoon-worthy poetry in no time at all. While Brits tend to be on the slow train, unless aided by alcohol. And then some personalities are just shy or in a rush to be with someone, anyone.

Personally, I think it’s worth waiting to say I love you, until you really mean it. Because it shouldn’t have the same value as: Please can you pass the salt.

Of course, Frenchmen will say, What’s the big deal? It’s not like I’m not thinking of you. And it’s only two weeks…

Yes, naturally, they’ll talk their way out of anything. But the thing is, actions are louder then words, especially words that are quickly dropping in value. A guy can call you for five minutes before bed every other night or so, or he can not. He can choose not to, or he can forget to. Either way it sucks.

Frenchmen, I tell ya.

Bises,

Datea x

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I hope you enjoyed the post. Thanks for reading and be sure to leave a comment. I hope to see you back here soon! Take care. Bises, Datea x

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11 Comments

  • Reply Anonymous 7 August 2012 at 18:13

    Your boyfriend did that to you? Have you asked him why he didn't call more often? If yes, what did he say?
    If my boyfriend would do that to me I would be so mad haha..

  • Reply Anonymous 8 August 2012 at 19:02

    I came across your blog and it I love it. It's funny and nice to hear some personal insight. I have never done this before but was actually going to ask for some insight because I have been confused by “my” own Frenchmen as well. I saw your latest post and it is exactly what I'm going through.

    We met in the states and it was his first time here. He was constantly texting me while he was here and when we went on a date it was beautiful and perfect (no exaggeration). I know they are romantic but he seemed genuinely concerned that I wasn't going to talk to him when he goes back to France. He was also always on me about not “showing him enough attention” when we were around our friends. It seemed that he was really into me, just like I am into him.

    Before he left we met up and hung out with our friends one last time and he asked me to be his girlfriend. I knew it seemed surreal and silly but we had been talking about it a lot and he was the one who initiated that it was not possible and he really wanted to make this work. I said yes, but ever since he had been back, we were romantic for a few weeks before he became extremely busy.

    I do know he has a lot to do but I also believe if a guy truly likes you he would make time to talk to you constantly. We do talk time to time and when we do he has been his cute self.. until recently when it has seemed short.

    I am actually currently in Europe visiting friends and family and he knows that and wants me to come visit. He seemed eager but at the same time appears to be wishy washy. I know he has seen my texts, but fails to respond often now (he used to be a crybaby when I don't respond within 2 minutes). But then he just apologizes for being so busy (he's on vacation now) and we chat then he disappears again. I am so confused.

    I apologize for such a long comment, but I have been scratching my head about this issue for a while now, and seeing your blog gives me some sense of hope that perhaps that you could possibly finally shed some light on this dilemma. I think I have the answer laid out right in front of me, but at the same time I would appreciate any advice!

  • Reply anonyme in trouble 8 August 2012 at 19:05

    correction: Frenchie initiated that it was not impossible* [for a relationship overseas]

  • Reply Dateafrenchman 8 August 2012 at 22:25

    @ Anonymous #1: It's okay, we talked it through and he understood I need a little more contact. But not before I completely blew up. There's a post coming up about that…

    @ Anonymous #2: Thanks for loving my blog! And thanks for your comment! It seems like your Frenchman did everything right while he was with you in the States. He was romantic, said and did all the right things. He hooked you, which put him in a position of strength…

    But did he follow through? That's what matters: what happens after.

    My Frenchman was away for 2 weeks. I knew he was coming back. Your man lives across the Atlantic ocean and as yet you guys have no plans to see each other in the near future. So to keep it alive he needs to be contact. It's a plain necessity, or it dies. Yes, if a guy likes you, he finds the time to call. Although “constantly” is too much. Guys don't need to be in constant contact to maintain their love. I learned that the hard way.

    The fact that he is wishy washy about you visiting him now that you're in Europe doesn't bode well. Did you put too much pressure on him? Remember, Frenchmen are all about spontaneous meet ups and taking the lead. But hey, I hear you, you flew in from the States God damn it, you didn't take the bus down the road!

    My advice to you is to lay off. Stop sending the texts. You might be coming on too strong. Give him a few days to wonder where you've disappeared to. He may well send you a text and suggest a meet up. But…. sorry, if you don't hear from him, you have your answer: he's not interested. At least you'll know.

    Good luck. Come back and tell me what happened.

  • Reply Anonyme 2 9 August 2012 at 22:52

    Thanks so much for your input. I guess I am too honest and upfront at times that it puts a lot of pressure. I just thought he would be happy that I planned on going to Europe, since he showed that anxiousness before. Your blog is inspiring. 🙂

    Which brings me to ask this… The questions might make me sound ignorant and stereotypical BUT… I have read that French men are masters at wooing and that French relationships can end as quickly as they started. Does it sound like I am a victim of this, like a summer fling?

    And if he is not interested… Why wouldn't he flat out say it (in a nice way of course)/stop responding to me overall? (I thought Frenchmen were known for their blunt honestly, whether good or bad.)

    Of course I'm being stereotypical, any thoughts?

  • Reply Dateafrenchman 10 August 2012 at 20:31

    Hello again,

    Frenchman are indeed great at wooing. And because they don't date, they jump into instant relationships… that sometimes have a very short life span. Go figure. Which is why they should date! Big cultural difference.

    Guys don't directly say they're not interested because well, it's too hard for them. Instead they do a disappearing act. Because then they don't have to explain and talk about their feelings and all that stuff they hate. Frenchmen may be blunt in other aspects of their lives but not for this hard stuff.

    As for you, I don't where you fit in all this. My advice still stands. Withdraw. Stop texting. And see if he comes after you.

    But be ready to move on, just in case.

  • Reply Anonymous 15 August 2012 at 12:03

    I have this french guy friend, and he and I were talking about just this topic the other day. He told me that the frenchmen only spits out these words and have sex as fast as they can cause they are unsure of themselfs. It's a stupid move to see if the girl they're with really are in to them! He says that if most of the frenchies wouldn't be this unsure, things would probably be different. I guess that (as you have pointed out in another post) they are afraid to be alone. So they just do this not to feel alone!

  • Reply Anonyme 2 18 August 2012 at 07:48

    Hello,

    You're right. I played the disappearing act and so has he. I think somewhere in my mind I just believed in a fairy tale. It's time to move on!

    I just read your most recent entry, and I really hope everything works out for you! Love your blog.

    Aye, Frenchmen…. Or should I say men in general…

  • Reply Dateafrenchman 13 September 2012 at 15:19

    Insecurity is always an issue absolutely. But from there to just make a girl swoon to get her into bed makes it confusing for an anglo. Like does he really care is he just trying to stroke his ego? Frenchmen are a mystery to the best of us…

  • Reply Anonymous 14 December 2012 at 08:05

    my situation is…a little more complicated. We're in a distant romance (I don't know whether I should call this relationship). We met on a site, he added my FB, for the first few months we didn't talk because I didn't give a damn care and he was busy with traveling too. Then when he came back and settled down in Paris where he's going to grad school (he's in his late 20s), he started to express his desire to get to know me better and we chat. At first he was so interested that he insisted me to chat with him even when he's in class , of course I said no. (different time zones make it really hard to catch up). Then I start to fall for him. Yes, and he spilled out those three magical words already, even saying that he wished I could be his wife one day.

    Then he rarely showed up on chat, even during the weekend because of school works as he said. At first I didn't complain because I know how delicate this online dating was, and he's totally entitled of space and his own priorities (though deep down I just wanted me to be his priority). I chose to change my sleeping routine instead, waking up so early so I could catch up with him when he's home at night. But the problem was he had to study crazily in the library almost every night and only came home when exhausted and slept. The rest, which is very few, he came home about his 8 (I was still sleeping), sent me a message asking if I was there. When I woke up, about his 9:45, he was already gone, sleeping or doing anything I don't know. (but seriously, sleeping at 9:45). I still tried to stay cool but this pattern was repeating for weeks. When I was so mad and ask whether I suffocated him, he apologized, explained that he had problem accessing the internet these days and begged me to trust him. But this continued to happen and finally I couldn't hold it anymore, I said if the situation could not change, I'd rather be his friend and ask if he wanted to talk once about all of this. He said he was so upset about the word “friend” and wanted to talk, but only when he had time (he is having finals now).
    I waited for the talk for two weeks, and during these two weeks, things was even worse. He didn't even drop me a message a day like he did before. But then he asked for my phone number so he can text me. For one moment I thought that things is getting better, he would not have any problem with the internet anymore. But he only text me once, I text him back asking very nicely that I only needed him to tell me when he would be available for the talk, during Christmas or New Year holidays fine, I just needed him to confirm so I wouldn't have to wait like this anymore. But he's never replied.
    I am really confused and somehow…angry right now. I wasn't begging for anything, I was always ready to move on, he was the one kept asking me to stay. And why ask for the phone number when he's clearly not want to communicate. Right now I really don't know whether it's because I still love him (yeah I did) or because I just wanna find out what is happening so I cannot get this out of my head.

    OMG I hate Frenchmen.

  • Reply Dateafrenchman 22 January 2013 at 23:42

    I somehow missed this last massive comment. Definitely great for my next post. Coming up!

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    Le règlement des achats sur le site www.dateafrenchman.com s’opère exclusivement en euros et s’effectue par carte bancaire via le site sécurisé PAYPAL au moment de la commande. PAYPAL vous permet de payer directement sans communiquer vos informations financières sur Internet. PAYPAL crypte automatiquement vos données confidentielles à l’aide des meilleures technologies disponibles sur le marché (protocole Secure Sockets Layer -SSL- avec clé de cryptage de 128 bits).

    Nota : pour acheter via PAYPAL, vous n’êtes pas obligé d’avoir un compte PAYPAL.

    Article 6 : Livraison

    La livraison du livre numérique et d’autres produits numériques acquises sur ce site se fait par téléchargement. Dans les 24 heures après la validation du paiement de la commande, un courriel est envoyé à la cliente avec un lien ou des liens de téléchargement permettant de charger le livre numérique et les autres produits numériques sur son appareil électronique (ordinateur, smartphone, tablette).

    Tout lien de téléchargement a une durée de vie de 72 heures. Au-delà de ce délai, si la cliente n’a pas téléchargé le fichier, elle pourra créer un compte ICI pour avoir accès à tous ses liens de téléchargement ou demander l’envoi d’un nouveau lien par courriel à DATEA à datea@dateafrenchman.com.

    Dans le cas du produit Sweet-Talk your Frenchman, le courriel envoyé à la cliente comprendra 2 liens de téléchargement permettant de charger un fichier texte et un fichier audio. Une semaine plus tard, un deuxième courriel sera envoyé à la cliente avec 2 liens de téléchargement permettant de charger un fichier texte et un fichier audio, et une autre semaine plus tard, un troisième courriel sera envoyé à la cliente avec 2 autres liens de téléchargement permettant de charger un fichier texte et un fichier audio.

    Dans le cas de Dating Coaching 4 weeks, un courriel sera envoyé à la cliente avec 3 liens de téléchargement : 1 pour Dating Coaching 4 weeks, 1 pour le ebook Je t’embrasse fort et 1 pour Your Online Profile in French.

    Dans le cas de Relationship Coaching 8 weeks, un courriel sera envoyé à la cliente avec 5 liens de téléchargement : 1 pour Relationship Coaching 8 weeks, 1 pour le ebook Je t’embrasse fort, 1 pour Your Online Profile in French et 2 pour Sweet-Talk your Frenchman (4 liens de téléchargement seront envoyés ultérieurement à la cliente pour ce dernier).

    Article 7 : Prestations et obligations – Coaching et Your Online Profile in French

    Coaching : Les appels pour les produits Dating Coaching 4 weeks et Relationship Coaching 8 weeks se feront uniquement par Skype donc une connection Internet et un compte Skype est nécessaire. Un compte Skype peut être créé ICI. Les dates et heures des appels Skype seront organisées entre la cliente et DATEA pour convenir aux deux parties dans les plus brefs délais.

    A partir de la date de commande de Dating Coaching 4 weeks, la cliente dispose de 8 semaines pour réaliser sa prestation. Il est ainsi impératif d’organiser les dates et heures des 4 appels Skype le plus tôt possible. Aucun versement ne pourra être remboursé.

    A partir de la date de commande de Relationship Coaching 8 weeks, la cliente dispose de 12 semaines pour réaliser sa prestation. Il est ainsi impératif d’organiser les dates et heures des 4 appels Skype le plus tôt possible. Aucun versement ne pourra être remboursé.

    Une fois que DATEA a reçu par courriel à datea@dateafrenchman.com le questionnaire complété par la cliente, des mails seront échangés entre DATEA et la cliente pour fixer les rendez-vous des appels et pour décider sur l’orientation du coaching. DATEA ne pourra être tenue pour responsable de l’inexécution de cette prestation si le questionnaire n’est pas complété entièrement par la cliente ou si la cliente ne répond pas aux courriels de DATEA.

    Après la prise de rendez-vous des appels, DATEA fera parvenir à la cliente par courriel une confirmation des dates et heures des rendez-vous.

    La cliente s’engage à respecter les dates et les heures des appels Skype convenu préalablement. Au delà d’un retard supérieur à 30 minutes, DATEA se réserve le droit d’annuler ou de reporter l’appel. En cas de non présence de la cliente à la date et l’heure d’un appel organisé, aucun remboursement ne sera effectué. De même, tout appel non annulé au moins 48 heures à l’avance sera perdu, sauf cas de force majeure, entendu comme étant un événement imprévisible et irrésistible, indépendant de la volonté de la cliente, selon la législation et la jurisprudence constante. Un justificatif sera alors exigé. Pour annuler un appel, un courriel devrait être envoyé à DATEA à datea@dateafrenchman.com et un nouvel appel sera organisé pour convenir aux deux parties dans les plus brefs délais.

    Des courriels peuvent être envoyés à DATEA à datea@dateafrenchman.com entre les appels organisés pour échanger sur des sujets qui ne peuvent pas attendre le prochain appel.

    Your Online Profile in French : Une fois que DATEA a reçu par courriel à datea@dateafrenchman.com le questionnaire complété par la cliente, des mails seront échangés entre DATEA et la cliente jusqu’à l’approbation de la version finale du profil en français par la cliente. DATEA ne pourra être tenue pour responsable de l’inexécution de cette prestation si le questionnaire n’est pas complété entièrement par la cliente ou si la cliente ne répond pas aux courriels de DATEA.

    A partir de la date de commande de Your Online Profile in French, la cliente dispose de 12 semaines pour réaliser sa prestation. Il est ainsi impératif de compléter le questionnaire et de répondre aux mails de DATEA le plus tôt possible. Aucun versement ne pourra être remboursé.

    La cliente est seule responsable de la mise en ligne de son profil en français sur le site de rencontre français de son choix.

    Article 8 : Service clientèle

    Pour toute information, question ou conseil, vous pouvez contacter DATEA par courriel à datea@dateafrenchman.com.

    Article 9 : Droit de rétractation

    Les achats de tout produit sont fermes et définitifs. Ils ne pourront donner lieu à aucun échange, remboursement ou droit de rétractation.

    Article 10 : Téléchargement et lecture des fichiers numériques

    Le téléchargement consiste en la transmission et la reproduction, sur l’appareil électronique de la cliente, d’un fichier numérique intégrant le produit choisie. L’accès à ces fichiers requiert l’utilisation d’Internet et d’appareils électroniques reliés à internet (ordinateur, smartphone, tablette).

    Le livre numérique est disponible en format PDF (Portable Document Format) : format de fichier informatique créé par Adobe Systems. Un logiciel de lecture de .pdf est donc nécessaire. Sweet-Talk your Frenchman est disponible en format PDF et QuickTime (un plateforme multimédia). Un logiciel de lecture .pdf et un logiciel de lecteur audio .m4a sont donc nécessaires. Your Online Profile in French, Dating Coaching 4 weeks et Relationship Coaching 8 weeks sont disponibles en format Word (un logiciel de traitement de texte). Un logiciel de lecture de .doc ou .docx est donc nécessaire.

    Article 11 : Protection des droits d’auteurs

    Le livre numérique et les autres produits numériques proposés par www.dateafrenchman.com sont uniquement destinés à un usage strictement personnel, privé et gratuit. La cliente s’engage expressément à garder confidentiel le lien de téléchargement qui lui sera transmis et à ne pas le communiquer sous quelque forme que ce soit à un tiers.

    Toute reproduction, adaptation ou représentation sous quelque forme et par quelque moyen que ce soit, et particulièrement à la revente, l’échange, le louage et le transfert à un tiers sont interdits et exposent son auteur à des poursuites judiciaires, civiles ou pénales prévues par les dispositions en vigueur du code de la propriété intellectuelle.

    Le livre numérique, les produits numériques ainsi que tous les éléments reproduits sur la fiche produit de chaque produit (notamment textes et illustrations) sont protégés par le Code de la Propriété Intellectuelle et par les normes internationales applicables.

    La cliente s’engage à respecter les droits des auteurs, interprètes et éditeurs et à ne pas contourner, ni porter atteinte aux mesures techniques de protection. L’atteinte aux mesures techniques de protection est sanctionnée par des délits spécifiques visés à l’article L 335-3-1 et suivants du Code de la Propriété Intellectuelle.

    Toute détérioration, ainsi que, en l’absence d’autorisation, toute représentation, reproduction, modification, utilisation commerciale, totale ou partielle, de différents éléments du présent site est interdite et expose son auteur à des poursuites judiciaires. Les présentes conditions générales et particulières n’emportent pas autorisation de représenter, reproduire, modifier ou utiliser commercialement les différents éléments du site.

    Article 12 : Responsabilité

    – www.dateafrenchman.com dégage toute responsabilité en cas d’inexécution du contrat due à un cas de force majeure (grève, inondation, incendie…).

    – www.dateafrenchman.com ne saurait être tenu pour responsable quant au contenu des sites sur lesquels ses produits sont référencés.

    – Les produits proposés sont conformes à la législation française en vigueur. La responsabilité de www.dateafrenchman.com ne saurait être engagée en cas de non-respect de la législation du pays où le produit est expédié ou téléchargé. Il appartient à l’acheteur de vérifier auprès des autorités locales compétentes les possibilités d’utilisation des produits commandés.

    – La cliente est seule responsable du choix et de l’utilisation de ses produits, dont il fera son affaire personnelle. www.dateafrenchman.com ne peut être tenu pour responsable de tout dommage ou perte de qualité dû à l’usage des produits achetés sur le site.

    – DATEA n’est ni thérapeute ni psychologue professionnel. En achetant les produits sur le site, la cliente reconnait que les conseils et coaching donnés par DATEA sont basés sur son expérience. La cliente est seule responsable de ses actions et choix et les conséquences de ces derniers suite à l’utilisation des produits achetés sur le site et la mise en pratique des conseils et coaching donnés par DATEA.

    – La cliente est seule responsable de ses interactions avec les hommes rencontrés une fois que cette cliente a mis en ligne son profil en français, développé grâce à Your Online Profile in French, sur le site de rencontre français de son choix. Le service de DATEA prend fin automatiquement à partir du moment ou la cliente a approuvé la version finale du profil en français.

    Article 13 : Exclusion de garantie

    En cas de non utilisation de la commande de Dating Coaching 4 weeks, Relationship Coaching 8 weeks et Your Online Profile in French (dépassement du délai de 8 semaines, 12 semaines et 12 semaines respectivement, cf. article 7), la cliente ne pourra prétendre à un remboursement.

    Article 14 : Protection des données personnelles

    Conformément à l’article 34 de la loi française du 06 janvier 1978 relative à l’informatique, aux fichiers et aux libertés, la cliente dispose d’un droit d’accès, de modification, de rectification et de suppression des données nominatives qui le concernent.

    Ce droit peut être exercé en contactant DATEA par courriel à datea@dateafrenchman.com.

    Les informations données par la cliente sont strictement confidentielles et à l’usage exclusif de www.dateafrenchman.com qui s’engage à ne pas diffuser les données clients à des tiers.

    Article 15 : Droit applicable

    Les présentes conditions générales de vente et d’utilisation sont soumises à la loi française.

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